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mse



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Rear Lights
Just contemplating which way to go to upgrade the rear lights on the 110...in the past i went clear standard with better quality bulbs.

In now considering the replacement, standard size LED or heaven forbid, the NAS LED lights.

Whats peoples preference and wheres best to get them now - i seem to have forgotten all the good places! Mike
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For standard size LED's two options, RDX which I have inc relay or Wipac.
Both are extremely similar, both have good reviews, both are similar in price.

The RDX is available in parts via eBay or a kit and Wipac again on eBay or somewhere like Paddocks.

I went for RDX because I wanted to buy a kit that was to what I wanted and to purchase in stages.
More expensive though this way..
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I like the NAS lights and did a totally reversible conversion on my new 90: http://www.defender2.net/forum/post386004.html#386004

Edit: I don't like the "discrete" LED ones and searched out factory-type Perei lamps. Like the SVX ones but coloured.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Car Builder Solutions stock the Le Perei NAS lights, and the Wipac LED lights too, thats where I got all my stop/tail/indicator/sidelights from.

The Wipac ones have the correct connector on them so are a straightforward plug & play. Mark S
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I like NAS,cosmetically and for throwing out more light, purely because they are bigger,bought some branded "quick reaction" (incandescent) stop and tail lights from Halfords,you can also get heavy duty bulbs anorl.Don't quite trust led "bulbs" for stop and tail (legal or not),tho I do happily have them for front sidelights.
Only thing with NAS is "moving" the mounting hole so they don't stick out past the bodywork.Tho,confusingly I do prefer the small oem lens at the front...go figure Neutral . Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.


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When I swapped my 90 for the 110 one of the first things I did was fit the WIPAC stock size LEDs. You can buy them singular or as a kit. If you have a pre 300Tdi you will need to drill two wholes per unit and sort the wiring out which didnt take long in either case.

They are noticeably brighter. Even during sunny days I can see the side lights reflecting off other vehicles.
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The sticking out problem with NAS lamps doesn't happen with the LED version Smile  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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/\/\/\,GENUINE QUESTION,NOT ARGUING,Really,dint know this,how does it work then,the only dimensions i've seen for NAS IS 95mm, LED OR INCANDESCENT lens.
The plinth is exactly the same size? Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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Don't worry, I'm not up for a fight Wink

The LED version doesn't have the bulb holder sticking out of the back, so it can be moved relative to the body hole so that it no longer sticks out over the body edge.

The SVX plinth comes ready-drilled to do this:




I think you may be able to drill a genuine/Perei standard NAS plinth to replicate this, but not the pattern (Wipac) one with the moulded-in machine screws. Or I might be making that up as the centre hole is too big Confused

The SVX lamp base is only compatible with the LED versions as it has a smaller exit hole for the cable.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Thanks, for this...gone are the days of just adding clear lenses! isnt there a LR plinth for the nas spec LED lights that uses the original holes for the small (74mm?) lights therefore no drilling??

I was leaning towards the standard lights - LED unit though, but my wife said NAS LED was better, so i had to look again Mike
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Er, what, the one in my post above? Wink  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Wow,it's been a long time 2 years ,FFS (gettin old,wtf!!)When I fitted my WIPAC NAS lights I only had to enlarge the "bulb holder" hole.Really can't remember if I had to move the screw mounting holes,I really should remember this sh*t!!wtf. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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I read this in you link and thought it meant you needed to drill?
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These are mounted on NAS bases modified with two small holes drilled inside to allow self-tapping screws to mount them to the original holes in the body.
 Mike
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Still pretty sure 95mm (NAS) lights overhang the bodywork...plinth or not??Pics please Very Happy . Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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mse



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jimbob7 wrote:
Wow,it's been a long time 2 years ,FFS (gettin old,wtf!!)When I fitted my WIPAC NAS lights I only had to enlarge the "bulb holder" hole.Really can't remember if I had to move the screw mounting holes,I really should remember this sh*t!!wtf.


I have the same i had 2 90s, v8 and 300 and a puma defender and i cant remember anything!

I modified both, did it all myself...forgotten everything Rolling Eyes Mike
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