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Mech



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Drive Flange Fitment
Hey all. Went to fit new drive flanges on the 110 today. Damn things wouldnt fit. They were 24 spline parts from lrdirect. Part FRC5806.

It just seemed like the tolerences were way too tight. I couldnt even pound it onto the half shafts.

Does this seem normal? There werent britpart parts, I think allmakes or bearmach.

-mech
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JWL



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England 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Coniston Green
You might find that the previous drive flanges have been flopping about for a while and have put some wear on the ends of the splined shafts. Also you may find that the splines aren't entirely clean which is stopping the new flanges from slipping on, I did have a bit of trouble with one of mine when I had to change it on a pay and play site after it decided to give out, A bit of work with a file and a hacksaw blade then a hammer sorted it (y)
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I Like Old Skool



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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi ST Coniston Green
Google says frc5806 is the earlier part for axles with 10spline diff. Latter 24 spline diff axles require a different flange. The change on defenders happened around late 1993/early 1994 if you have the original axles.
Post #450468 30th Aug 2015 5:32am
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Mech



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The ones I tried to fit were definitely 24 spline units. Just didn't fit. I did powdercoat em first. Maybe baking the paint distorted the casting or something. I was trying to find out if people sometime have to press them on or something.
Post #450708 30th Aug 2015 10:25pm
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sharkey964



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I fitted exactly the same flanges on my 90,& they were feckin tight. Mad
Try fitting them to the shaft first,on the bench.
Make sure they are lined up properly,then tap them on with a soft mallet.
Marc.
Post #450726 31st Aug 2015 6:16am
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GREENI



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WHOOOOAAAAAA STOP !!!

I just replaced all the swivels, bearings and brakes on my 110, I estimated a FULL day of spannering (7am-10pm).

The first drive flange was seized on, hours of heat and chiselling made no difference, I had to unbolt the lot from the axle case, had pullers and everything on it....no luck.

Luckily I had a new cv and drive flange in 'stock', so I had to use a cutting disc and a grinder to get the flange off, which then was an absolute pig.
One side took me 2 days. Luckily the other side slid off as normal.
This is a quarter of the way through...


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If you're keeping the 110 ( as you've powder coated the flange, I expect so) I would not recommend hammering or pressing it on, for future maintenance.
I'd look at getting a replacement cv, to try the flange on...it's worth having a spare anyway, if it won't fit on that, look at getting a different flange.
Post #450742 31st Aug 2015 8:44am
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Dora



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This might sound stupid but you did remember NOT to powder coat the splines?
Post #450754 31st Aug 2015 9:28am
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I Like Old Skool



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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi ST Coniston Green
LRDirect list FRC5806 for upto VIN : KA930455

For later, 300tdi on, you want FTC859 or RUC105200 from VIN : LA930456

In case you aren't aware, the 24 spline bit refers to the spline count where the halfshaft fits into the diff, not the spline count at the flange.
Post #450774 31st Aug 2015 10:18am
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Egghead



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black
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Dora wrote:
This might sound stupid but you did remember NOT to powder coat the splines?
Post #450783 31st Aug 2015 10:50am
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jimbob7



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GREENI wrote:
WHOOOOAAAAAA STOP !!!

I just replaced all the swivels, bearings and brakes on my 110, I estimated a FULL day of spannering (7am-10pm).

The first drive flange was seized on, hours of heat and chiselling made no difference, I had to unbolt the lot from the axle case, had pullers and everything on it....no luck.

Luckily I had a new cv and drive flange in 'stock', so I had to use a cutting disc and a grinder to get the flange off, which then was an absolute pig.
One side took me 2 days. Luckily the other side slid off as normal.
This is a quarter of the way through...


Click image to enlarge





If you're keeping the 110 ( as you've powder coated the flange, I expect so) I would not recommend hammering or pressing it on, for future maintenance.
I'd look at getting a replacement cv, to try the flange on...it's worth having a spare anyway, if it won't fit on that, look at getting a different flange.



Looks like the one I had to cut off (f/n/s),the new one didn't go on any easier Rolling Eyes . Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
Post #450934 31st Aug 2015 9:01pm
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GREENI



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It was offside front.. Luke Taazukcb had the near side front same trauma Rolling Eyes
Post #450944 31st Aug 2015 9:41pm
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