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| Crofter Member Since: 19 Feb 2015 Location: Peterhead Posts: 169   
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Can you get tax on a tax?
I bought the utility version it costs just over £200 cant remember the exact figure The station wagon is about £450 approx. But maybe you can put it against your tax |
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3rd Mar 2015 8:28pm |
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| Russell Member Since: 14 Jan 2015 Location: Warrington Posts: 16  
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Hi. Hello. income tax and all vat for servicing and diesel etc is reclaimable Only thing I bought mine in July and will have to wait till next Feb to claim my tax back. Good Luck
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3rd Mar 2015 8:32pm |
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| steve E Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Tenby Posts: 2073 
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The road tax is the same at £220 I think
The VAT on a seven seat SW is only reclaim able if you need a vehicle with seven seats. If it's just one man and a SW it's not.if they investigate the worst that can happen is you need to pay it bAck |
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3rd Mar 2015 8:34pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1565 
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The road tax is about £220 and the station wagon is an N1 classification.
However you cannot reclaim the vat on any station wagon only hard top or usw. It will be taxed through a company as a normal car. |
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3rd Mar 2015 8:35pm |
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| walfy Member Since: 29 Aug 2007 Location: Frome Posts: 2639 
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I went through this same discussion with my accountant. If it's a company vehicle then the BiK between the SW and utility is HUGE!!
Make sure you need the 7 seats before buying 110 D250 SE HT 110 USW SOLD RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD |
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3rd Mar 2015 8:43pm |
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| kbf1981 Member Since: 22 Feb 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 183
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So you can't claim back the VAT? If you can't claim it back then really just worth buying personally. |
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3rd Mar 2015 9:09pm |
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| walfy Member Since: 29 Aug 2007 Location: Frome Posts: 2639
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My accountant was willing to claim the vat back on a SW but the BIK was huge compared with a USW 110 D250 SE HT
110 USW SOLD RRE HSE Dynamic Gone, wife killed it VOLVO XC60 R Dynamic with some toys Polaris RZR 900XP SOLD |
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3rd Mar 2015 9:14pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1565
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When we looked into it we found that station wagons are classed as cars as far as hmrc are concerned.
EIM 23049 is the ruling number given by hmrc. |
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3rd Mar 2015 9:39pm |
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| Russell Member Since: 14 Jan 2015 Location: Warrington Posts: 16
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Hello again. Forgot to mention mine is a 110 Utility.
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3rd Mar 2015 9:59pm |
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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1565
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Mines a utility as well so no problem, but I only use it at work and the odd weekend.
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3rd Mar 2015 10:01pm |
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| tcqf Member Since: 27 Jan 2013 Location: devon Posts: 11 
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I ve got a 110 utility,claimed the vat and classed as a van for hmrc but good old LR registered it as a station wagon £450 roadtax!
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3rd Mar 2015 11:12pm |
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| Mjibex Member Since: 21 Mar 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 283 
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Offical blurb for you!!! (a few years old - hence tax is £225 now)
As part of the 11MY programme, all Defender derivatives were re-classified into the N1 Commercial Vehicle category in order to be type approved for sale under the new European Complete Whole Vehicle Type Approval (ECWVTA) legislation. Subsequently, at 12MY the new 2.2l PUMA engine was introduced to comply with the EU5 emissions legislation which came into force for N1 Commercial Vehicles on the 1 January 2012. Even though all Defenders are categorised at N1 Commercial Vehicles for ECWVTA purposes, they are not all treated in the same way for vehicle taxation purposes. The N1 classification also led to a change in the way the vehicle masses and dimensions are calculated which caused a reduction in Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) for some versions and the withdrawal of some of the Heavy Duty vehicles in the range. The purpose of this bulletin to provide clarification around some of the more frequently asked questions on this subject. Vehicle Taxation VED – The reclassification of all Defenders into the N1 Commercial Vehicle category means all derivatives are subject to the Commercial Vehicle VED rate, which is currently £215. Benefit in Kind (BIK) – The reclassification into the N1 category made no change to the way Defenders are treated for income tax purposes. A Commercial Vehicle is required to be of a construction primarily suited to the conveyance of goods. Consequently, 90 and 110 Station Wagons do not meet these requirements and are considered a Passenger Car for BIK purposes. However, 110 Utility Wagons, along with all other Defender derivatives do meet these requirements and are considered to be Commercial Vehicles for BIK purposes. VAT – in the same way as BIK, the reclassification into the N1 category made no change to the way Defenders are treated for VAT purposes. Defender 90 Station Wagons are treated as a Passenger Car, whilst 110 Station Wagons are normally treated as Commercial Vehicles because they have a payload which exceeds 1000kg. 110 Utility Wagons and all other derivatives are also considered to be Commercial Vehicles. Please note, vehicle taxation can be subject to local interpretation of HMRC guidelines so interested parties should be advised to seek clarification with the local tax office. Vehicle Weights The N1 Masses and Dimensions legislation requires that a vehicle load be placed centrally in the load space for the measurement of vehicle masses. Previously the load could be spread across the entire vehicle. As a consequence, a greater load is placed on the rear axle which necessitated a reduction in the Gross Vehicle Weight (GVW) for some versions to ensure the rear axle capability is not exceeded. |
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4th Mar 2015 5:49pm |
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| kbf1981 Member Since: 22 Feb 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 183
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Thanks mate, that's very helpful.
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4th Mar 2015 6:11pm |
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| Nevillerover Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 224 
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2.2 VED =£215?
My 2.4 VED = £500!!!!!!! |
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4th Mar 2015 8:17pm |
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