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martinfiattech



Member Since: 13 Nov 2013
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Electronic question

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morning all

I ve just bought my self a 2011 my 90 2.4 with a few issues but that's in progress !

On looking thru your very helpful and informative site I just wanted to know if my defender has a body control module (bcm) or some kind of master CAN ecu or gateway module if it does have a CAN system (I assume engine ecu abs ecu instrument cluster have there own network) and if so how many channels does it have and data transfer speeds does anyone know the pin out of the pin out of the obd socket or do normal protocols apply if so ive got that one covered,

Second question I work on fiat commercial vehicles, in the ducato 250 model van we have the 2.2 puma engine in euro 4 emmissions spec no dpf front wheel drive does any one know if the wiring diagrams for fiat Visteon ecu will transpose over to the defender, fiat system is CAN high 500 kbits per second CAN low 50 kbits per second (a bit slow I know) and it has all the same problems with injectors egr etc.

thanks martin

Also does it have pollen filter and where does it live. enclosed picky of new toy
Post #284752 24th Nov 2013 1:05pm
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Lorryman100



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The Puma uses 11 bit CAN protocol over a 500k bus.
Only the IPAC and EMS are on the CAN network.
There is no BCM.
The Wabco ABS and Alarm (10AS)modules use serial links (Analogue) to communicate with the IPAC.
The pin out on the OBDII socket is the industry standard.
There is no pollen filter,
Wiring diagrams as well as workshop manuals are available on this forum if you do a search.
The Visteon wiring diagram you are after? Is it the pins out or the circuit board diagram? Both of which are on here somewhere IIRC. Thumbs Up

HTH Thumbs Up
Post #284765 24th Nov 2013 2:40pm
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martinfiattech



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hello and thank you lorryman

Well you post a question go off to asda do shopping come back question answered day gets better only one thing and please forgive my ignorance whats an IPAC and where does it live.

I am after and would like to buy (not after something for nothing) a good workshop technical manual with fault finding charts wiring diagrams dtc codes etc as I plan on keeping the car for the next 10 years or until Vauxhall start making the mk2/3 cavalier again.
Any recommendations would be appreciated as new to ownership and new to this whole internet forum thing.

again thank you
martin
Post #284774 24th Nov 2013 3:14pm
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Jonno1968



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Shocked What on earth are you two on about?! Good luck with that then! Bow down Bow down Bow down
Post #284776 24th Nov 2013 3:15pm
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Lorryman100



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IPAC is the instrument cluster, binnacle. Thumbs Up

If you search workshop manual and wiring diagrams you will find them on here, they were put up by dgardel. Thumbs Up
Post #284777 24th Nov 2013 3:19pm
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martinfiattech



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Ah Instrument Panel Assembly Cluster Bow down

I wondered that but was ent sure,
again thank you will go off looking for diagrams this is to nights home work Very Happy
Post #284784 24th Nov 2013 3:33pm
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Lorryman100



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Work shop manual: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic687.ht...hop+manual

Wiring diagrams and manuals: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic4403.h...hop+manual

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Post #284786 24th Nov 2013 3:41pm
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ARC99



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what's this, office speak for Land Rovers Question Don't make old people mad.
We don't like being old in the first place,
so it doesn't take much to Censored us off.

Richard
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dorstsmith2



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Cant all bad at lest he drives land rover to go and repair fiat commercial vehicles (fix it again tomorrow) Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter yes i had misfortune of having drive fiat for work
Post #284820 24th Nov 2013 5:02pm
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martinfiattech



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Thanks all for reply`s

just finished my bit of the house work off to look at suggested links for the rest of the evening

martin
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MartinJC



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10as and MY2013 Defender
My my2013 defender have recently developed a fault on the alarm system, the interior lights come on when nogotiating uneven terain and the Alarm triggers sporadically when armed. i believe it to be a wiring issue though the vehicle only has 3k on the clock. i connected the Faultmate MSV 2 to the car, but it does not seem to be able to find the 10AS any idees?
Post #347417 24th Jul 2014 5:22pm
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mrd1990



Member Since: 16 Aug 2012
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Sounds to me like a door sensor or bonnet sensor is at fault, if it's going off randomly when armed check the bonnet sensor, in the summer the metal will contract and expand due to scattered cloud turning the sun on and off like a hair dryer... simple way to test the bonnet sensor is to unplug it and leave it..

although I don't think opening the bonnet turns on interior lights?
Post #347438 24th Jul 2014 8:55pm
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Hal



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I had a similar problem - interior light stayed on and alarm not happy. It was just a metal tab not pushing a door switch enough. Just bent the tab a bit more - easy fix.
Post #347911 27th Jul 2014 7:37pm
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MartinJC



Member Since: 12 Jul 2014
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Thanks! I found the problem on the front passenger door, could not bend the Tab as it is to thick, had to make a spacer.
Post #347947 27th Jul 2014 9:49pm
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