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The Boy

Joined: 28 Aug 2008
Location: East Northants
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Running on/throttle responce?

Morning all, another question please. How many of you suffer from the “running on” of the throttle?
To explain myself: starting from stand still, pull away in first, change to second, put your foot to the floor until you reach 1800rpm then release the throttle. On mine it carries on accelerating on full throttle for about 2-3 seconds covering up to 25 ft (at its worse) before the engine revs start to drop. This can only be avoided by either breaking hard or dipping the clutch. This happens in all gears but can be quite hairy in stop/start traffic in second gear. Land Rover tell me this is quite normal and all defenders do it. Your thoughts please.

Thank you

Boy

29th Aug 2008 9:48am

Japseroony

Joined: 02 Jan 2008
Location: North East
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Re: Running on/throttle responce?

The Boy wrote:
Morning all, another question please. How many of you suffer from the “running on” of the throttle?
To explain myself: starting from stand still, pull away in first, change to second, put your foot to the floor until you reach 1800rpm then release the throttle. On mine it carries on accelerating on full throttle for about 2-3 seconds covering up to 25 ft (at its worse) before the engine revs start to drop. This can only be avoided by either breaking hard or dipping the clutch. This happens in all gears but can be quite hairy in stop/start traffic in second gear. Land Rover tell me this is quite normal and all defenders do it. Your thoughts please.

Thank you

Boy

Hi,

Mine does this and its even worse when your off road climbing over rocks or through mud when you need to give it some throttle and then back off immediatley - almoast ran into the back of a TD5 some time ago as I was coming out of some boggy stuff and onto a decent bit of track when she took off on me Whistle

Think I will have my dealer look at this but I dont expect much of an ansewr Rolling with laughter

Pete, if your watching, do you have any thing to say about this Question

Russell.

29th Aug 2008 11:54am

The Boy

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Mine does this and its even worse when your off road climbing over rocks or through mud when you need to give it some throttle and then back off immediatley - almoast ran into the back of a TD5 some time ago as I was coming out of some boggy stuff and onto a decent bit of track when she took off on me

Yes I know what you mean Russell, on steep hill climbs it can be very unnerving Shocked

Did some rocks in Spain about 13 mths ago and found it very hard to get used to. Have also nearly run into back of other cars while in traffic a few times Shocked

I wish I could get rid of it!

Boy

29th Aug 2008 12:02pm

Japseroony

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The Boy wrote:

I wish I could get rid of it!

Boy

What the vehicle or the over-run Question

29th Aug 2008 12:35pm

The Boy

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Location: East Northants
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Japseroony wrote:
The Boy wrote:

I wish I could get rid of it!

Boy

What the vehicle or the over-run

I'm gonna have to think about that one Laughing

29th Aug 2008 1:11pm

AndrewS

Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Pembridge
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2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Manual Alveston Red

There is a dealer fix for this issue Thumbs Up

29th Aug 2008 7:13pm

The Boy

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AndrewS wrote:
There is a dealer fix for this issue

Really

They have told me it is surposed to be like that Shocked

I have been arguing the toss for neally nine months now.

What is the fix??????? Have you had it done?????

Maybe things are looking up?

Boy

29th Aug 2008 7:55pm

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I have felt the same thing in my testing, i recon its partly the VNT actuation been slighlty slower than your foot,and partly in the mapping to keep the gear change and driveability smooth.

I did notice this when i was doing the first mapping and it took me some time to get used to i must admit.

These is sometimes a simlar feeling on the TD5's and disconnecting the clutch switch seemed to help with the throttle shut off but only when you were changing gear.

Regards Pete
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29th Aug 2008 10:40pm

The Boy

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If I take my foot off at 1800 rpm it will carry on until about 2400rpm until it starts drop off Shocked

I would be very interested to see if there is a dealer fix?????????

Boy

30th Aug 2008 7:42am

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I looked on GTR last night and could no find anything about the dealers , unless i missed it of course.

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30th Aug 2008 8:15am

The Boy

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Thanks Pete, I got all excited there didn't I? TBH I have all but given up on it anyway.

Do all Defenders do it? The dealers made me drive another one to prove to me that all defenders do it (though it was not as bad as mine). I just can't believe that they make a vehicle that when you take your foot off the throttle it still gets fuel and is still accelorating! Shocked Maybe I am jsut getting old and not willing to take on new ideas?

30th Aug 2008 8:27am

DefenderKen

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April 08 build and mine does not do this.

I've had a few 'fly by wire' cars now including a mkV golf gti which do have a different 'feeling' to good old fashioned cables, however my car does nothing like you are describing.

Hope this helps.
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30th Aug 2008 12:36pm

The Boy

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DefenderKen wrote:
April 08 build and mine does not do this.

I've had a few 'fly by wire' cars now including a mkV golf gti which do have a different 'feeling' to good old fashioned cables, however my car does nothing like you are describing.

Hope this helps.

Thanks Ken Yes it does as I now can put my hand on my hart and tell land rover no al do it!!!

Anyone else have this??

30th Aug 2008 2:30pm

dave's 110

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I have had it in the first few weeks once or twice Twisted Evil But change my driving so suit Rolling Eyes and have not had it know for the last 4000 miles I know have Pete's remap on and have not found it doing at all Thumbs Up

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31st Aug 2008 8:11am

The Boy

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dave's 110 wrote:
I have had it in the first few weeks once or twice But change my driving so suit and have not had it know for the last 4000 miles I know have Pete's remap on and have not found it doing at all

Dave

Thanks Dave, this is jsut getting better and better!

I am soon to have a engineer down from Lodge Lane to inspect my vehicle and it is helpful to know that other TDCi's don't do it. Over the last 10 months it has been a constant battle with the dealers and they have jsut sticking to the story that they all do it. At one point I went to Hartwells at N/ton (not by choice) they were very rude and said among other thing it was my driving style and it was a reflection on my age that I did not understand modern engines!!!!!!!! Shocked

(I,m 44) . My 110 does it all the time but worse when cold. I really to appreciate the feedback I am getting here guys Thumbs Up

. It took them 3 weeks to fit a fuel pump which just about says it all. With this engineer coming down I am kecking myself that it wil be another white wash and them just coming up with loads of excuses why I have all these faults. Teh engine now knocks and is runing very rough, this has only started since when it made one morning a horrible noise which sounded like the engine was going to destory itself. The vehicle then stopped dead and I had to be recovered. This happened four time since and like i have just said it has been noisy and rough since!

Thanks for all your help.

Boy

31st Aug 2008 9:51am

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