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Supacat



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best way to stop new wave of hi-tech thieves
Post #346919 22nd Jul 2014 9:33am
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TooTall



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I can't believe that the Daily Fail have actually published a vid showing how to steal any keyless car
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Post #346922 22nd Jul 2014 9:48am
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udderlyoffroad



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Surely you’re being ironic…

First of all, hashtags on a forum where hashtags don’t work. See me afterwards boy!

Secondly, Daily Fail didn’t show any detail, just the methodology employed. They didn’t describe in any detail what equipment would be needed, how to procure it, what software is required…

And actually, as a graphic warning to the public, it works quite well. It’s not often that I agree with an editorial decision made by the Daily Mail.

You can be assured that by the time it makes the national press, the technique will be well known amongst the ‘criminal underclasses’ as the DM et al used to refer to them. Put another way, if you are getting your thieving tips from DM, there’s really no helping you.

Similarly, when Countryfile did a piece on the theft of Defenders a while back, people were complaining that John Craven et al showed how easy it was to strip a Defender. If you need the help of the BBC to strip a vehicle, you really are a basket case and should probably ask your carer to get your medication increased.

‘Security through obscurity is no security at all’ is the mantra used in encryption/information security. Perhaps it’s time the car industry started holding white-hat events?


Back on topic somewhat, since when did any ‘Fender owner consider ‘physical’ security measures obsolete?! Real trucks don't have spark plugs
Post #346939 22nd Jul 2014 11:35am
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Natlas



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I bought one of these yellow things a few years ago when I had an old TDi300, now I still use it on my new TDCi and touch wood so far no evidence of anyone trying to nick either! Smile
I think any visible deterrent which shows you have made an effort is going to make the thieves think twice. 2.2 90 XS
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Post #346942 22nd Jul 2014 11:54am
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jimbob7



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udderlyoffroad wrote:



Put another way, if you are getting your thieving tips from DM, there’s really no helping you.

If you need the help of the BBC to strip a vehicle, you really are a basket case and should probably ask your carer to get your medication increased.




Have you got the links for the above please,as Caterham was talking about *"acquiring" a Defender for stripping a while back,them articles must have been written with him in mind Thumbs Up .

*dunno wot everyone else thort,but I assumed he wanted to pinch one Whistle ?? Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
Post #346955 22nd Jul 2014 1:15pm
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K9F



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Caterham would have to start at least three threads on 'stealing a Defender' to canvass for advice and tips first.

Rolling with laughter If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #346967 22nd Jul 2014 1:53pm
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Cakey



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And he would then complain the turbos faulty , and the gearbox and the clutch
Post #346975 22nd Jul 2014 2:27pm
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K9F



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^^
Laughing Then speak with the owner to see how long the symptoms have existed, if it's still under warranty, what they think themselves is wrong and what the fix is.....blah, blah, blah, blah, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #347004 22nd Jul 2014 5:14pm
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udderlyoffroad



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jimbob7 wrote:

Have you got the links for the above please,as Caterham was talking about *"acquiring" a Defender for stripping a while back,them articles must have been written with him in mind Thumbs Up .

*dunno wot everyone else thort,but I assumed he wanted to pinch one Whistle ??


I did look for it online prior to posting but couldn't find anything... Real trucks don't have spark plugs
Post #347199 23rd Jul 2014 12:42pm
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K9F wrote:
Caterham would have to start at least three threads on 'stealing a Defender' to canvass for advice and tips first.

Rolling with laughter


And then tell you what mpg he got from it on the way home If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.

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Post #347231 23rd Jul 2014 4:38pm
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Tom The Locksmith



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steering lock
I get those yellow things of steering wheels in less than a minute with a flat head screwdriver.
Trust me when I say they are not a security device.
Post #358116 16th Sep 2014 12:01am
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ericvv



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Post #358124 16th Sep 2014 4:34am
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Tiger



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If I was a tea leaf I wouldn't bother with a flat head screwdriver

I'd cut the steering wheel with croppers in 2 seconds flat, slide the lock off and throw it out of the window.

The weakest park of that set up is the rubber round thing.
Post #358134 16th Sep 2014 7:18am
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Tom The Locksmith



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Stoplock Pro
[url]http://www.halfords.com/car-seats-travel-equipment/security-cctv/car-security/stoplock-pro-steering-lock

Now this has an anti drill key way to stop you drilling the disks inside the lock.
Once you pull off the plastic cover it has a hardened steel housing protecting the lock.
The only week spot is the rivets holding the whole thing together but even they are hardened.
Usually takes me 1 HSS drill bit to drill out the rivets then it just falls to pieces .[/url]
Post #358319 16th Sep 2014 10:28pm
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Tiger



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And if I attack the steering wheel and not the device?
Post #358320 16th Sep 2014 10:32pm
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