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Merlin



Member Since: 30 Oct 2010
Location: Newmarket
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I'm not saying that it won't work, it's just that it works differently to the original. With these relays, you would have thought that you could put all the current through the relays without worrying, like the LR version through a simple switch.

My question is why?

Merlin
Post #320372 30th Mar 2014 9:40pm
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munch90



Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
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sorry don't quite know what your asking ?

main power direct from battery or alternater to relays , you need at least 2 relays , 1 dip , 1 main
trigger feed from dip or main beam wires that normally join to headlight connector
so switch is still sending same thing just through relay to take load not switch

so should all act the same
Post #320393 30th Mar 2014 10:19pm
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
fitted mine today, extended +ve cable back to the battery, mounted the relays behind the passenger side headlight, not ideal but descreet DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #322006 6th Apr 2014 8:29pm
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Little update. After several weeks with this loom, can only say it is just what the doctor ordered.
As the installation was made with the signal taken from one of the original H4 connectors everything works as before.
But with the additional effect that even if the truck has been unused for a week or more, and I turn the headlights on before starting the engine, the Speakers do not flicker anymore, meaning they get the full power load from the battery without any Voltage losses from the juice having to run via the original switch as was the case before. Thumbs Up
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Post #322067 7th Apr 2014 4:51am
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Dave T



Member Since: 07 Jun 2013
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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Cairns Blue
6 weeks later I have given up waiting as the seller said he had posted but "don't have a tracking number". Avoid him like the plague! E bay are giving me a refund so its only time lost.

I am now going to try and make up my own, more expensive of course but you can only wait on Chinese junk for so long! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad 2015 RRS Autobiography SDV6
1994 Def 90 300tdi
Post #322406 8th Apr 2014 4:38pm
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mk1collector



Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Bonatti Grey
As I said before, look on ebay for a harness for a mk1 golf and they fit and work perfectly fine. The one I used on my 110 was originally for one of my mk1 golfs but I never got around to fitting it so decided to put it on the landy
Post #322422 8th Apr 2014 5:45pm
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Dave T



Member Since: 07 Jun 2013
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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Cairns Blue
Thanks, but they seem to be quite expensive though, for a little effort I can make them up a lot cheaper. 2015 RRS Autobiography SDV6
1994 Def 90 300tdi
Post #322449 8th Apr 2014 6:54pm
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Merlin



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I eventually got mine, but the wires to the off side is too short. Had to extend these which was APITA. Wish I'd gone for the Mk1 Gold kit now.

Merlin
Post #322612 9th Apr 2014 10:46am
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ZeDefender



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In the end (regardless of PsITA) it will be worth it Thumbs Up Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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Post #322613 9th Apr 2014 11:08am
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Dave T



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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 90 300 Tdi SW Cairns Blue
Just finished this mod, made my own harness using parts list from Diablo's list on page 1. I have done it slightly differently and run the cables inside the wings following the original route. I put the relays in the centre on the front of the bulkhead just under the channel under the bonnet, so shouldn't need any waterproofing, I already have a spot light relay here. Feed is coming straight off the alternator, so instead of 10.3 volts at the bulb holder, I now get 12.8 volts and the light is so clear and white rather than the dull yellow glow. I'll try and get a picture beside an unmodded one to see if the difference shows. 2015 RRS Autobiography SDV6
1994 Def 90 300tdi


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Post #323453 13th Apr 2014 2:05pm
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ZeDefender



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Thought it would be impressive with normal bulbs Thumbs Up Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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Post #323464 13th Apr 2014 3:05pm
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
Fitted mine on the 6th April, took it out for the first time after dark last night for a drive into Birmingham, the difference was obvious as soon as I switched on the lights with the beam appearing brighter in both dipped and high beam, I can definitely recommend this mod. DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #324928 20th Apr 2014 6:58pm
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kmac



Member Since: 07 Oct 2009
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Fitted my home made harness with relays today for the headlights. No melting stalk switch for me!!

I used male H4 connectors to take the switched power to the relay so I didn't have to butcher the existing harness
Took the earth for the lights from the existing connector as well. Relay is earthed separately in the engine bay.

Used 2mm sq thinwall cable throughout all in convoluted tubing to protect wires.
Post #325095 21st Apr 2014 4:08pm
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munch90



Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
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really you should take a different earth and have it same size as new positive feed wires direct to good earth point (chassic etc )
this way go make full use of larger wires
you may find the earth is still limiting output slightly, it may not be much as the earth wire is proberly shorter than original positive wires to lights

use the original earth for relays and new heavy earth for lights
Post #325104 21st Apr 2014 4:39pm
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kmac



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Thanks, will upgrade the earth for lights as well to same point on chassis - checked continuity and resistance on the point I used and it was 0.2 Ohms so seems fine
Post #325119 21st Apr 2014 5:38pm
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